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. >> congressman, you had a reading from the nra. you voted for reducing the waiting time for weapons from reduced to one day. do you think we are at a tipping point, but there'll be some kind of a seismic change? >> since the topic of politics, i would add a lot of people lately accredit 1993 crime bill for the reason republicans took a majority for the first time in 40 years and so it really has a lot to do with the politics. i'm very grateful to be at the university of chicago. only in chicago could use something called the nonpartisan and bipartisan center for apologies but david axelrod and rahm emanuel. >> is a whole different story. >> we have to come back with the bipartisan issue. >> and it's sure if he goes so far. the conversation has changed and i will tell you, this goes to a no care whether it's gotten discussion, fiscal discussion or anything else, at this moment in time you have republicans than i happen to be one of them with the ira they would be more than happy to sit down and begin to have a conversation about gun
. >> congressman, you had a reading from the nra. you voted for reducing the waiting time for weapons from reduced to one day. do you think we are at a tipping point, but there'll be some kind of a seismic change? >> since the topic of politics, i would add a lot of people lately accredit 1993 crime bill for the reason republicans took a majority for the first time in 40 years and so it really has a lot to do with the politics. i'm very grateful to be at the university of chicago....
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last back >> what do you think about the nra position? >> i think if you're going to put their resources into coming up with that many armed security people, that would be the best place to put it. schools are surprising as they may be one of the safest place kids can be. if you are going to hire 50,000 cops are fined 50,000 volunteers from other spaces where they could have a much better impacting school. >> congressman, what do you consider going too far in the attempts to limit gun violence? to own guns as opposed to the consequences to society? >> too far but i was talking about is something that can't get if you invest in the united states senate in 218 in the u.s. house of representatives and assign it to law by the president and ruled to be constitutional by five justices in the united states supreme court. what we do sadly today in politics today in politics and i'm really offended which he said about the congressman. what we tend to do is try and develop the next campaign theme rather than solve the problem. what's missing in ame
last back >> what do you think about the nra position? >> i think if you're going to put their resources into coming up with that many armed security people, that would be the best place to put it. schools are surprising as they may be one of the safest place kids can be. if you are going to hire 50,000 cops are fined 50,000 volunteers from other spaces where they could have a much better impacting school. >> congressman, what do you consider going too far in the attempts to...
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this is the side of the century and i need you on board with the nra now more than ever. this ad is getting mixed but massive reviews online. many of you have contacted on facebook to share your opinions. we have some chilly air coming in during the day tomorrow. j-lo of colder air that has occurred thermometer readings down to 8 below zero at international falls and 19 at minneapolis. this is a look at where this snow will fall down to the south of us heavy in the mountains and look at this snow on the upper midwest. for us there is a big canadian high we jumped ahead monday and monday night that big guy comes southport but look at this little system that the afternoon weather services picked up on that brings a little bit of snow into the area as you can see right here 27 tomorrow and 41 friday. only nine on monday some chilly weather. a scary moment in portland oregon firefighters rescued a woman who was stuck between the walls of two buildings for several hours on sure of exactly how she got their but witnesses said they saw her climbing a second store wall in the mid
this is the side of the century and i need you on board with the nra now more than ever. this ad is getting mixed but massive reviews online. many of you have contacted on facebook to share your opinions. we have some chilly air coming in during the day tomorrow. j-lo of colder air that has occurred thermometer readings down to 8 below zero at international falls and 19 at minneapolis. this is a look at where this snow will fall down to the south of us heavy in the mountains and look at this...
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the nra was disappointed. they felt they had been invited so people could see they were there, but there wasn't an intention to hear them out. did you agree with that? >> i thought we had a real conversation, and it wasn't just a lecture. we had some different positions on some issues, but really a lot more agreement on many of the multifaceted aspects of the problem than really sometimes come out in the media. when i spoke as i do in colleges and conferences around this country. i talk about how important it is on this issue to focus correctly on the language. if you ask the question and focus on guns, if we ask the question, in whose hands were the guns, we find we're in a lot of agreement. we talked about civil commitment laws. we talked about the need for greater penalties for gun running. we talked about the problems that the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms with giving law enforcement agencies the tools to do their job, such as the niban program. i believe the vice president was very supportive o
the nra was disappointed. they felt they had been invited so people could see they were there, but there wasn't an intention to hear them out. did you agree with that? >> i thought we had a real conversation, and it wasn't just a lecture. we had some different positions on some issues, but really a lot more agreement on many of the multifaceted aspects of the problem than really sometimes come out in the media. when i spoke as i do in colleges and conferences around this country. i talk...
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she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie halvorson. when it comes to promoting gun violence, she gets an f. >> that ad, that pressure ad comes from new york city mayor michael bloomberg's pro-gun reform superpac. it's part of his campaign to build support in congress for meaningful national gun reform. and you know what? it appears to be working. once that ad started running in her district, debbie halvorson, who had said she would not be moved on this issue, debbie halvorson moved on this issue. ms. halvorson telling buzzfeed, quote, my win will not be a victory for the nra. how can
she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie...
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in reality, how successful are the nra at doing that? >> well, they're much less successful than they used to be, and that's the point that i'm trying to make to my colleagues. because i have a feeling that there are a lot of republicans and democrats that know exactly what the right thing to do is here. they know that if they want to make it less likely that there's a school shooting in their district, that they should join us, join the parents of newtown and pass a strong gun reform measure that gets these high capacity magazines off the streets and puts in background checks for every assault weapon that's sold in this country, but they fear the political power of the nra. the political power of the nra just isn't what it used to be. take the 2012 election. in the 16 contested senate races that the nra put money into, they lost 13 of those races. a 20% return on their investment. that's not the kind of political muscle that the nra tells members that they have. in fact, you'd be better off being against the nra in the 2012 elections th
in reality, how successful are the nra at doing that? >> well, they're much less successful than they used to be, and that's the point that i'm trying to make to my colleagues. because i have a feeling that there are a lot of republicans and democrats that know exactly what the right thing to do is here. they know that if they want to make it less likely that there's a school shooting in their district, that they should join us, join the parents of newtown and pass a strong gun reform...
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it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do nothing. they want to instill a kind of fatalism that means that we can't do anything to solve our problems. whether we're talking about guns we're talking about keeping weapons and ammunition out of the hands of bad people. now, this is a problem that society deals with all the time. we try to distinguish bad people from good people. we try to distinguish bad situations from good situations. i don't think our existing laws go far enough in doing that. i think it's obvious they are not working because they haven't prevented the
it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do...
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and then we have a form nra member who quit in disgust over the position the nra is holding on these gun-control legislation, because they are way too extreme. and then we have a story about how the city of oakland is spending so much more money on the raiders than they are on cops, and the results that is having. a young mother from oakland says she is afraid to have a young black boy in oakland. and we have a filmmaker that made a movie about how they are crying to create creationism in texas. >> jennifer: wow. sounds like a jam-packed night. all right. we'll be watching at the top of the hour. thanks, cenk. >> thank you. >> jennifer: chuck hagel will face some tough questions tomorrow. he has been nominated for secretary of defense and the neo-cons are not thrilled about the prospect of hagel heading up the military because they are concerned that he won't protect the defense budget from the sharp spending cuts that are expected with the ending of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, and the looming threat of the sequester, those cuts could slash the pentagon's budget -- here is what
and then we have a form nra member who quit in disgust over the position the nra is holding on these gun-control legislation, because they are way too extreme. and then we have a story about how the city of oakland is spending so much more money on the raiders than they are on cops, and the results that is having. a young mother from oakland says she is afraid to have a young black boy in oakland. and we have a filmmaker that made a movie about how they are crying to create creationism in...
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the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let's put the whole program out there if we can. >> do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don't know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular -- let me go to gene robinson. >> i'm not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that's a problem. you know, you can look at it from the other side. i understand the point about a comprehensive bill, but you might actually be able to get bills with this piece or that piece out of committee and maybe that would be easier than -- >> who is going to ramrod it for you, paul? the pro-gun safety or gun control people, who is going to ramrod it in the house or -- you got to get particular here with me. i want to know who is going to stand up, john dingell won't be there, a lot of guys in the congress are not anti-gun in any way. bobby casey is not going to be there. i don't think joe manchin is going to be t
the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let's put the whole program out there if we can. >> do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don't know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular -- let me go to gene robinson. >> i'm not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that's a problem. you know, you can look at it...
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and this is something the nra has said the administration should do, although it's the nra, of course, is one of the reasons why the atf hasn't grown at the same rate other agencies have. >> we don't know yet on some of the other executive actions he's going to announce. one is his idea of database sharing. so, for instance, i had a person say, jared loughner, the person that -- the gunman in tucson failed a, you know, he tried to get in the military, did not because of a failed drug test. had that information been shared, he might have failed a background check on guns. >> it's possible. first of all, the rule says the military can't share that information with anyone else, so presumably, the administration could do that by executive action. what the federal law says, that you can't get a gun if you're a drug addict. >> how do you define drug addict? >> drug user. the fact that you failed a drug test some years ago, does that mean that you would be disqualified from ever owning a firearm? probably not, but it's an open question. and if somebody, you know, failed a drug test and then
and this is something the nra has said the administration should do, although it's the nra, of course, is one of the reasons why the atf hasn't grown at the same rate other agencies have. >> we don't know yet on some of the other executive actions he's going to announce. one is his idea of database sharing. so, for instance, i had a person say, jared loughner, the person that -- the gunman in tucson failed a, you know, he tried to get in the military, did not because of a failed drug...
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we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that. and there were 16 other injured students at virginia tech who did that. and who stand with us in this area. you know, in my opinion, the nra should not even be at the table. i don't see reports from them. i do
we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton....
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sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these things, but again, i would just suggest to you that in fact almost none of the killings in chicago, the deadliest place in america, almost none of those killings involved any kind of exotic weapon. they involved a system which is broken down, where the police have broken down, where the process is broken down. and so i would start and say, you know, the total number of use of those kind of devices you're talking about in the entire country is very, very small. and had there been an armed guard at that school, the odds are that by the second or third sh
sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these...
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he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given that issue over to them because they have lobbyists they pay money. in the end, the people determine the outcome. and it's wrong, and it's racist and it's bigoted to say that guns are quintessentially american. they may represent a part of america, but my grandparents who came over from poland and live in brooklyn, new york, are just as much americans, people who came over from ireland, people who came over from italy, we're just as much americans. we live on the coast and we have a right to define the america we want to live in and we have the obligation to win politically, to vote for people to put gun control as a high
he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given...
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a lot of times we're dealing with the far right on the nra. but what people have to understand, and this is what the american people are now facing in their heart of hearts, why do we need to have these when they're slaughtering our children? and by the way, not just these mass killings, but the killings that are going on every single day, we can do legislation to help certainly the american people to live in a safer country. i'm a nurse. i have always been a nurse. even in congress. and i will say to you, i could not save every single patient. i could not save every single person from gun violence, but by gosh, i'm going to do everything i can to cut down the amount of killings, and those that are injured and stay injured for the rest of their life, like my son, this is a life-changing event for people, and they have to understand that. >> let me ask very quickly, michael nutter, do you believe that you can win this argument and get an assault weapons ban reinstated? >> yes, i believe in the american public. americans are very, very smart. th
a lot of times we're dealing with the far right on the nra. but what people have to understand, and this is what the american people are now facing in their heart of hearts, why do we need to have these when they're slaughtering our children? and by the way, not just these mass killings, but the killings that are going on every single day, we can do legislation to help certainly the american people to live in a safer country. i'm a nurse. i have always been a nurse. even in congress. and i will...
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the nra meeting yet didn't go so well. the nra left displeased at best. they said it was more about demonizing the second amendment than keeping kids safe. so what did the nra want to talk about? not guns just like they did right after the shooting at nowtown the lobby wanted to talk about school safety, mental health, the collapse of our legal system anything but guns. vice president biden's meeting with the entertainment administration went better. they discussed the ways in which they already police themselves and give parents the tools to protect children from inappropriate or too violent content. there is nothing in place where they intend to trample on anyone's first amendment rights. "politico" pointed out the internet has changed the way kids can access content. a kid may not be able to see a trailer that is inappropriate, but they have access on the internet. again, here is where parents probably come into play. we're back after the break. stay with us. ♪ those types are coming on to me all the time now. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >>
the nra meeting yet didn't go so well. the nra left displeased at best. they said it was more about demonizing the second amendment than keeping kids safe. so what did the nra want to talk about? not guns just like they did right after the shooting at nowtown the lobby wanted to talk about school safety, mental health, the collapse of our legal system anything but guns. vice president biden's meeting with the entertainment administration went better. they discussed the ways in which they...
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the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let's put the whole program out there if we can. >> do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don't know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular -- let me go to gene robinson. >> i'm not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that's a problem. you know, you can look at it from the other side. i understand the point about a comprehensive bill, but you might actually be able to get bills with this piece or that piece out of committee and maybe that would be easier than -- >> who is going to ramrod it for you, paul? the pro-gun safety or gun control people, who is going to ramrod it in the house or -- you got to get particular here with me. i want to know who is going to stand up, john dingell won't be there, a lot of guys in the congress are not anti-gun in any way. bobby casey is not going to be there. i don't think joe manchin is going to be t
the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let's put the whole program out there if we can. >> do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don't know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular -- let me go to gene robinson. >> i'm not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that's a problem. you know, you can look at it...
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host: why a former nra member? caller: the day after the presidential election, cote was contacted by the nra. if you know anything about an they contact you quite often, asking for money. while i still support the nra's position on defending some of our rights, i also saw them as one of the largest and more powerful lobbies. the tactic could not defeat president obama -- the fact that they could not defeat president obama, i thought, i am not going to support their financial effort anymore. host: you mention that your a gun owner, and you have been treated for depression. caller: i am treated for depression. i have not read the president's entire proposal verbatim. i want to caution the government to really take a look at this for people -- it as a man, it was very difficult for me to ever go to a health-care professional to address my depression. i knew for years that i was depressed, but i always thought that was something that i could man up, power through. that is just not the case. my doctor actually told me,
host: why a former nra member? caller: the day after the presidential election, cote was contacted by the nra. if you know anything about an they contact you quite often, asking for money. while i still support the nra's position on defending some of our rights, i also saw them as one of the largest and more powerful lobbies. the tactic could not defeat president obama -- the fact that they could not defeat president obama, i thought, i am not going to support their financial effort anymore....
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do you get the sense that republicans, you mentioned the nra membership versus the nra leadership. do you get the sense that republicans that for a lot of them the nra is a an important part of their funneled raising and publicity. are they going to throw over the executives do support the members? i mean do you get that feeling? that sort of has to happen in congress. right? >> who are they more afraid of? right? the voters who may be in favor of some stronger gun laws or the nra who is the official that's going to raise money, going to raise money from them? you know, we will see. but i think that that story then needs to be told that this is about people who have been bought by an organization that at the top levels represents the gun manufacturers. you know when wayne lapiere said that's exactly what we need. we need to arm teachers. we need to have guns in every school. we need to have guns in every classroom, this is about creating a greater market for, you know, for gun sales. and i know there actually have been people lining up to get more guns because they fuel this parano
do you get the sense that republicans, you mentioned the nra membership versus the nra leadership. do you get the sense that republicans that for a lot of them the nra is a an important part of their funneled raising and publicity. are they going to throw over the executives do support the members? i mean do you get that feeling? that sort of has to happen in congress. right? >> who are they more afraid of? right? the voters who may be in favor of some stronger gun laws or the nra who is...
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he and the task force have been hearing for different sides and a to be lobbyist from the nra. coming away none too pleased with the administration. he joins us now from the white house. the vice president mentioned specific recommendations emergeing for groups. what are they? >> number one, he mentioned it right there at a news conference of sorts with reporters and the reporters weren't asking questions, but the vice president gave a briefing and said they will look at background checks. it's a background check. he is talking about universal background checks and private sale fist i were to sell you a gun, there would be a background check according to what the vice president was laying out. the other thing he was talking about was a ban or limitation on the high capacity magazines like the magazines used by the shooter, adam lanza in newtown, connecticut. people who were concerned about the violence pointed to the magazines as being the problem and the vice president talked about that and talked about improving gun safety and getting more funding for gun violence research. t
he and the task force have been hearing for different sides and a to be lobbyist from the nra. coming away none too pleased with the administration. he joins us now from the white house. the vice president mentioned specific recommendations emergeing for groups. what are they? >> number one, he mentioned it right there at a news conference of sorts with reporters and the reporters weren't asking questions, but the vice president gave a briefing and said they will look at background...
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your question is nra and the gun manufactured. gun manufactures have a huge influence on what the nra does but it's not the membership. the gun manufacturers are pushing and paying for that. assessing their capital will begin to -- what they say and how they deal with what they tell the nra. the gun manufactures, that the people -- any change in policy as relates to access to guns for criminals. that if we have to gun after. -- go after. make sure they're held accountable and deal with them that way. because too much of this is while the nra has played a very big role they will are funded and huge way by the gun manufactures. spent and the same thing will happen, wal-mart, for example, there's a lot of protests about wal-mart and the sale of those kind of platforms. and wal-mart has said, we will look at and we'll see what the impact will be. >> back to the nra. i think this debate needs the nra. the reason i say that because this is a political calculation. and so i will go in to a general motors plant, before we owned the compan
your question is nra and the gun manufactured. gun manufactures have a huge influence on what the nra does but it's not the membership. the gun manufacturers are pushing and paying for that. assessing their capital will begin to -- what they say and how they deal with what they tell the nra. the gun manufactures, that the people -- any change in policy as relates to access to guns for criminals. that if we have to gun after. -- go after. make sure they're held accountable and deal with them...
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there is a shorthand used with the nra. americans to support second amendment rights do so because the nra tells them to. the nra is interested in building their membership. they are not dictating thought to people. people care about their guns. there is a component that goes on between the nra and lawmakers. that relationship is more nuanced than is often portrayed. i would think the nra would push back on any attempt to renew an assault weapons ban. they have been more silent on the background check. >> thank you both for your questions and being with us on "newsmakers" today. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] clacks why did you write a book about your experience? >> it was an important point in history. i thought like the perspective should be brought. i thought it was not completely accurate, about in terms of what i did and what we did. i thought it was important for the historical effort to put that in perspective. also, i think for people
there is a shorthand used with the nra. americans to support second amendment rights do so because the nra tells them to. the nra is interested in building their membership. they are not dictating thought to people. people care about their guns. there is a component that goes on between the nra and lawmakers. that relationship is more nuanced than is often portrayed. i would think the nra would push back on any attempt to renew an assault weapons ban. they have been more silent on the...
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that matters to the nra. what their goal is is to protect gun rights, the rights of the second amendment. they're going to do everything possible to make sure that happens. you know, you have republicans and democrats joining together. that will end up joining together to fight president obama's proposals. you have red state senators in the senate, harry reid extremely cool to this proposal as well as pat leahy, a democrat who will take his time and look this over. i think that this is going to end up being dead on arrival in congress. they're going to get very little done here. the only thing you'll see is executive action. >> but the thing is, if you step back and you look at what the american people want, there's a separate "washington post" poll that shows the majority of americans support bans on assault weapons, limiting assault weapon clips, and background checks at gun shows. these are the things that president obama will suggest today it has nothing to do with taking second amendment rights away. >>
that matters to the nra. what their goal is is to protect gun rights, the rights of the second amendment. they're going to do everything possible to make sure that happens. you know, you have republicans and democrats joining together. that will end up joining together to fight president obama's proposals. you have red state senators in the senate, harry reid extremely cool to this proposal as well as pat leahy, a democrat who will take his time and look this over. i think that this is going to...